I also updated links to the famous Forking Debate.
<CarlosRuiz> Morning everybody
<egonzalez_ergio> Buen dia!
<Azzam> Good After Noon Carlos & every body
<mzuniga_ergio> Good Morning!
<tbayen> Hi CarlosRuiz, good afternoon!
<a42niem> hi CarlosRuiz
<a42niem> hi all
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<CarlosRuiz> this meeting doesn't have a specific agenda - as is our first meeting I would prefer to exploit it to solve your questions
<CarlosRuiz> if any
<CarlosRuiz> maybe everything is very clear and I have not noticed
<Azzam> I have here some questions
<CarlosRuiz> sure Azzam
<Azzam> I am beginner to OSGI & iDempiere
<Azzam> so my questions will be around this
<Azzam> How can we start working & using iDempiere ?
<Azzam> will idempiere be community based like Adempiere ?
<tbayen> I missed a clear documentation "from zero to idempiere" too. I had problems initializing the database.
<Azzam> Can we expect a release for iDempiere ?
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<Azzam> Or is there a roadmap for idempiere ?
<CarlosRuiz> just let me know when questions are complete and I'll try to start answering
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<Azzam> How can I ( we ) contribute in iDempiere ?
<Azzam> Last question : Can we merge other branches in idempiere like fixed assets & POS ?
<Azzam> These are my questions
<CarlosRuiz> ok - let me try
<tbayen> In some weeks I will want to commit code. At the moment I work with globalqss361. Which base is stable and a good base to commit code?
<CarlosRuiz> > How can we start working & using iDempiere ?
<tbayen> I am complete too (for the moment).
<CarlosRuiz> I saw Azzam request on red1 forums
<CarlosRuiz> hengsin and dominik (banym) have published interesting tutorials about how to configure idempiere on eclipse
<CarlosRuiz> but Azzam asked that he wanted the before and after parts
<CarlosRuiz> so I tried to expand that in my wiki
<CarlosRuiz> starting with prerequisites installation - and explaining the after part - how to install and run
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<red1> hola , halo every1
<CarlosRuiz> please feel free to comment on that or request further information
<CarlosRuiz> Hi red1
<red1> sorry i am late… caught up in traffic
<red1> bad jam in Bogota…
<mzuniga_ergio> Hi Red1
<CarlosRuiz> are you at the office?
<red1> si si
<CarlosRuiz> ah, fine
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<CarlosRuiz> I'm trying to answer some questions from Azzam and Thomas
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<Azzam> Thanks Calos I can see contents of documents
<CarlosRuiz> > will idempiere be community based like Adempiere ?
<CarlosRuiz> idempiere IS community based - following meritocracy
<red1> Hola Javier_SETSOFTWA
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> i red1
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> hi red1
<red1> cumo esta amigo?
<CarlosRuiz> about Adempiere, I prefer not to make political statements
<hengsin> carlos, the current postgresql seed in iDempiere is up to date ?
<CarlosRuiz> yes hengsin
<CarlosRuiz> > I missed a clear documentation "from zero to idempiere" too. I had problems initializing the database.
<CarlosRuiz> precisely I saw Thomas struggling with applying the migration scripts
<CarlosRuiz> so I committed an updated seed past week
<CarlosRuiz> is ready now for an initial preview release
<CarlosRuiz> both seeds - postgresql and oracle
<red1> this is a bad room / and good room (as what Carlos told me) He said if there is no one he will work for 2 hrs on iDempiere
<red1> since it is not empty… he cannot work on it
<CarlosRuiz> I'm very happy with the attendance - this is community work, technical can wait
<red1> but it is good.. as we have others to do that
<CarlosRuiz> > Can we expect a release for iDempiere ?
<CarlosRuiz> yes Azzam, we're working on it
<CarlosRuiz> I tried last week and found that installers are having some problems
<Azzam> Thanks Carlos
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> hi everybody I have two questions.
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> what is the safest path to migrate to IDempiere from ADempiere 361? When can we start to using it in a production enviroment?
<CarlosRuiz> I think hengsin is working on those problems (please hengsin correct me if I'm wrong)
<CarlosRuiz> so, after solved I'll try to do an initial preview release
<CarlosRuiz> > Or is there a roadmap for idempiere ?
<red1> as i written in OSGI_Hengsin in the .com wiki.. i found the DB instance same (at that time)
<CarlosRuiz> hengsin has a proposed roadmap
<CarlosRuiz> but anyways I keep repeating that you must not ask for a roadmap with dates
<Azzam> I will ask any dates
<CarlosRuiz> the roadmap is like a routing guide - but without committed resources we cannot put dates, ok?
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<red1> about resources, myself is a resource to do my own roadmap in SF/red1 under SYSNOVA
<hengsin> I guess we can start setting some time line and then what we can fit into it. for e.g, 1.0 at about 3 month from now and then another release 6/9 month after that.
<CarlosRuiz> I used to call the roadmap a wishlist - but hengsin roadmap is guiding about where we want to be later - so I think is a good route guide
<red1> which is QA for iDempiere under Jenkins stack
<Azzam> That's enough. It is noe wsie to stick on dates in opensource projetcs
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<CarlosRuiz> yes, I like hengsin idea
<CarlosRuiz> we can make a preview release - and take 3 months to stabilize it and release the 1.0
<CarlosRuiz> > How can I ( we ) contribute in iDempiere ?
<red1> so i will answer if there is questions on my area - QA, using build server of Jenkins to provide testing strategy and results
<CarlosRuiz> * reporting bugs
<red1> at the moment i freeze 361 of Carlos instance so that the tests development are not affected
<CarlosRuiz> * bringing ideas
<CarlosRuiz> * spreading the word
<CarlosRuiz> * Suggesting functional specifications
<tbayen> If I understand right you would recommend 361 for my production system. Does it make sense for me to do clean commits to this branch or which way of contributing makes least work for you?
<Azzam> we can report to bugs
<CarlosRuiz> * Contributing code for functional specifications
<CarlosRuiz> * Contributing sponsorship for approved functional specifications or technical/architectural improvements
<Azzam> we can suggest new functionality
<hengsin> beside some bug fixes and enhancement, the other thing in my mind at this point is to streamline the 1.0 release with a reasonable integration story line and do a zk6 upgrade after 1.0
<red1> I am able to test important stuff such as (1) creating of new product, pricelist, and SO thru Invoicing process
<red1> with accounting consequence tracked and compared with previous results
<Azzam> I can share Red1 this test
<CarlosRuiz> just a minute I'm trying to track the questions between lines .....
<CarlosRuiz> ok, last question from Azzam
<CarlosRuiz> > Last question : Can we merge other branches in idempiere like fixed assets & POS ?
<CarlosRuiz> Java POS is already integrated
<CarlosRuiz> Fixed Assets is pending from some fixes - there are columns with romanian names, and other things that redhuan detected
<CarlosRuiz> but yes, the idea is to integrate other branches - and going deeper I think the idea is decouple some of those modules in future to ease maintenance
<CarlosRuiz> Thomas question now:
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<CarlosRuiz> > In some weeks I will want to commit code. At the moment I work with globalqss361. Which base is stable and a good base to commit code?
<CarlosRuiz> I migrated globalqss361 branch to bitbucket - so, kenai is not maintained anymore (I put a notice in kenai homepage)
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<CarlosRuiz> globalqss361 is "semi-public"
<CarlosRuiz> I mean
<aldringutierrez> hi evrybody
<CarlosRuiz> Hi Aldrin
<aldringutierrez> i'm aldrin gutierrez from Global qss Bogota
<aldringutierrez> hi Mr Carlos
<CarlosRuiz> I'm providing access to code on bitbucket globalqss361 on request
<CarlosRuiz> I adviced in forums that you write me showing some karma points and you'll get access
<a42niem> how do i show them?
<tbayen> So if I can access bitbucket my contributions will go to idempiere without hassles? Thanks for the answer!
<CarlosRuiz> I want to clarify that the idea is not to privatize - but to encourage contributions
<collazosc> what is a karma point?
<collazosc> how do we get it?
<Azzam> Excuse me Carlos & Every Body : I have to go to pray . Thanks Carlos & Have a Good Day
<CarlosRuiz> thanks Azzam for attending
<tbayen> If you dont't know by yourfself you should think about what carlos wrote (hint: read the lines with "*")
<CarlosRuiz> I'll try to publish this whole meeting and announce where
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<CarlosRuiz> yes - that's the idea of karma points (a name borrowed from launchpad I think)
<aldringutierrez> hi red1 now i can see you
<CarlosRuiz> the idea is that your contributions give you karma points
<CarlosRuiz> as we don't have a current way to measure (and I don't have the time to keep tracking)
<CarlosRuiz> so I just want you to write showing one of those "*" above
<CarlosRuiz> and that's all
<CarlosRuiz> so, a wiki page, a blog page, a bug filed on jira, etc - would be enough to give you access to globalqss361 at bitbucket
<CarlosRuiz> not a big issue I hope - as I said is just trying to encourage contributions
<CarlosRuiz> Thomas asked > So if I can access bitbucket my contributions will go to idempiere without hassles? Thanks for the answer!
<collazosc> ok sounds good
<red1> hi aldringutierrez
<CarlosRuiz> for a contribution to arrive to globalqss361 and/or idempiere - there is a peer review process
<CarlosRuiz> so, if the peer review process passes, yes, it will arrive there
<CarlosRuiz> if not - we'll let you know the why for you to fix it and try again
<CarlosRuiz> Javier asked > what is the safest path to migrate to IDempiere from ADempiere 361? When can we start to using it in a production enviroment?
<CarlosRuiz> from globalqss361 to idempiere the db migration will be easy - just applying migration scripts as always
<CarlosRuiz> code migration is a different thing - we'll try to document what is needed for that
<red1> am i correct to say that migration is basically the same as prior all this time?
<CarlosRuiz> anyways, callouts and model validators and all the stuff we're used to is backward compatible
<CarlosRuiz> just that the way of putting within the jars will probably vary
<red1> just that there seems to be a forking point with 361
<CarlosRuiz> red1 - yes for db migration - for code migration it can be a little different
<hengsin> if you don't modify model classes (MOrder, MInvoice, etc) then it will be straightforward
<red1> as the 'official 370' no longer follows it as i tried to, for example the IDGenerator class for ZK Ajax testing..
<red1> and i find changes to 370 not done in the best practice manner as we like it, and thus we cannot accept changes in 370 that way
<CarlosRuiz> Thomas asked > If I understand right you would recommend 361 for my production system. Does it make sense for me to do clean commits to this branch or which way of contributing makes least work for you?
<CarlosRuiz> I'm using globalqss361 in several installations, and I keep fixing the problems found and reported there
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> thanks for the answer.
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<CarlosRuiz> as always - to "recommend" it for production depends on the scope of your project
<CarlosRuiz> but I would say that yes - this is the only version I trust at this moment - of course this is a BIASED statement - so please don't blame me for that
<hengsin> at this point, 361 or idempiere 1.0 depends more on the timeline of your project.
<CarlosRuiz> I would like to explain something else
<CarlosRuiz> how do we want to manage the "commit permissions"
<tbayen> Thanks for the answers!
<CarlosRuiz> somebody asked me here where is the "community repository" (meaning where is the repository where "community" can commit)
<CarlosRuiz> and that's something that we want to manage different on this project
<CarlosRuiz> instead of having a trunk with permissions assigned (as we did in adempiere subversion)
<CarlosRuiz> we want to have a "circles of trust" model like linux - empowered by distributed version control system (DVCS) at this moment mercurial
<CarlosRuiz> mercurial is a tool to fork
<CarlosRuiz> so you don't need to ask us for commit permissions
<CarlosRuiz> you simply fork the project
<CarlosRuiz> start making your changes - and then let us know for our peer review
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<hengsin> for bitbucket, you can clone globalqss361, make your changes and then send in a pull request
<CarlosRuiz> via "pull requests" on bitbucket - or via publishing the patch somewhere
<tbayen> Perhaps we should document some standard procedures for beginners to do an own fork and to keep it synchronized with another "fork of trust". I would like to do this.
<hengsin> it will be great if we have a gerrit like system ....
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<CarlosRuiz> exactly Thomas - what is expected is to have "circles of trust" - in linux that works very well to manage thousands of developers
<egonzalez_ergio> Hi: I have a question about distributed version control system: Why mercurial instead GIT?
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<hengsin> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display ... Repository
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<CarlosRuiz> I tried to document some baby steps here http://www.globalqss.com/wiki/index.php ... d_the_Code
<red1> tbayen at the moment i.e. Carlos trust Hengsin… and you trust Carlos.. so that is how you work
<CarlosRuiz> but is still very poor documentation
<CarlosRuiz> hengsin - sorry didn't understand the term "gerrit like system"
<red1> if you wish to push code to Carlos… you may not get thru because Carlos does not trust you (yet)
<CarlosRuiz> Emiliano - you're entering in holy wars with such question
<hengsin> see this for e.g - http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,11848
<mzuniga_ergio> Sorry fot that Carlos, he is always looking for war
<CarlosRuiz> ah, I see
<tbayen> I just read about pull requests. Seems there is nothing more to document - just do it. Sorry for being stupid.
<CarlosRuiz> thanks hengsin for the link - I got the idea
<hengsin> gerrit is only for git though, not sure there's something equivalent for mercury ...
<egonzalez_ergio> is not (ever) my intention!
<CarlosRuiz> ok, to answer Emiliano
<CarlosRuiz> mercurial was chosen before because it was better supported on eclipse and linux/windows/mac
<CarlosRuiz> seems like situation have changed now
<red1> yes tbayen .. only when you wish to push, then you have to push to those Carlos trust.. i.e. Hengsin.. or those Hengsin trust… and so on.. you can read the 'Circle of Trust by Linus"
<tbayen> red1, I Carlos never has to trust me. I do a pull request, he reads it, makes a decision and uses it or not, right?
<hengsin> lol, I'm actually supporter of git
<red1> yes tbayen
<CarlosRuiz> I'm not against moving to git if that's what developers prefer
<CarlosRuiz> I haven't played with git - but I'm ready to learn
<red1> Carlos or anyone may apply own discretion whether to subject you to more review or just blind acceptance (based on high trust)
<hengsin> carlos, unless we want to use gerrit, it is of not much gain otherwise - better just stay as it is.
<red1> there is much disfavour from users about mercurial
<hengsin> ah .. one more benefit there - buckminster only support git and svn at the moment!
<red1> i prefer SVN.. but that is just me (in my own present work).. i hg pull from Carlos and Hengsin work.. so i am fine as it is
<CarlosRuiz> something I read when I was doing the review is that mercurial was better than git on keeping history of moved files - not sure if that's true
<tbayen> Sorry, I have an important date with my children... bye! I will read later what comes out but up to now I say thanks to you for answering my questions and giving us a good community feeling.
<CarlosRuiz> thanks Thomas for attending
<CarlosRuiz> and thanks for bringing red1 to Colombia
<red1> yes Carlos.. that may explain Mercurial's high diskspace usage!
<red1> all hail tbayen
<hengsin> sorry guy, got to go, time to sleep for my boy.
<CarlosRuiz> thanks hengsin - bye
<tbayen> CarlosRuiz, I never dared to ask whether this was a blessing or a curse. Bye
<red1> Dominik banym has cursed mercurial in front of me when i was in his office… for the huge disk size it needs to transfer thru the bandwidth.. and it takes a long time
<CarlosRuiz> I don't think is a problem from mercurial - I guess a git full repository must be similar in size - is more about the adempiere big history
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> I have another question for you Carlos, Are you goin to publish more patches for goblalqss 361 at sourceforge?
<red1> just to continue about Jenkins QA roadmap (if there is no objecton)
<red1> (if there is no further question to Carlos)
<CarlosRuiz> Javier, not at sourceforge, but I'll try to do at bitbucket
<red1> it will be confusing to me if i have to refer to more than one repo now at bitbucket
<red1> (about QA at Jenkins).. i froze a 361 instance of Kenai repo until next time in future when carlos may say he is ready to release
<red1> then i will update one shot from him and run the tests again.. to see if all lights are green as before
<red1> if not, i will debug backwards.. going back…
<red1> this is temporary measure as Jenkins QA process is not fully matured
<red1> so anyone who wants to help me can contact or shout at my forums or SF / red1
<Azzam> Excuse me Carlos & Every Body : I am leaving now . Have a Good day & Blessed efforts
<CarlosRuiz> bye Azzam
<egonzalez_ergio> bye Azzam
<red1> bye Azzam
<red1> once the Jenkins QA is matured (all tests are fully created and standardised or frozen themselves) then the tests will be switched to live and constantly run each time there is a commit on the target repo
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<red1> at the moment i got a good set of ground tests.. New Product Sales to Invoice accounting, Fixed Assets Depreciation cycle, ZK Sales process cycle
<red1> JUnit All tests (from Extend folder of ADempiere)
<red1> Openbravo POS JUnit testing
<red1> German Localisation deployment, plus normal binary deployment of Apps server
<red1> and DB drop, ImportADempiere, apply migration script, silientsetup all at one go
<red1> so at the moment this is ALL green for 361 (frozen one month back)
<red1> my roadmap is to create JUnit4OSGi testing to prepare that such tests must run in future for iDempiere
<red1> hope to complete the framework for that in February 2012
<red1> by June 2012 a matured set of tests will then go live
<red1> by end 2012, almost all functionality from black box to conditional testing must be sufficient
<red1> and it goes on and on as features are added.. i will try to find a way to make testing dynamic.. self generating (for 2013)
<red1> good thing is that technology is on the leading edge as we speak… JUnit4OSGi is just released, so is GWT2.4 (another sub project i am doing)
<red1> I been reading GWT/GAE latest videos from Google.. it seems cutting edge that they are just going beta with new RequestFactory that hopes to super hype the GWT engine speed
<red1> i am telling all these hoping to 'motivate' more members to think about it for a moment (and join in)
<red1> as it is lots of fun
<red1> i also made a backup of the Jenkins configuration in a zip file so anyone can take it and replicate for themselves
<red1> so no work can be lost.. and another member of the community can always reuse and improve on it
<red1> (missing a more noisy bazaar - hmm.. no more wars it seems)
<CarlosRuiz> it will be at the scream lounge
<red1> Hi Edwin_Ang .. hows Jakarta?
<Edwin_Ang> hi red1
<CarlosRuiz> just wait for the first reversion to a noisy person and you'll have your first scream
<red1> I be going Jakarta i hope in March.. got too many friends i promised there.. in Bandung
<red1> please organise a talk :>
<Edwin_Ang> u r very welcome here
<Edwin_Ang> of course we can arrange that for u
<red1> hope to meet Armen Rizal
<red1> i will be staying with friends in Jakarta and Bandung (very old friends)
<Edwin_Ang> it's raining season right now
<collazosc> red1 do you remember my yesterday question about the annoying emails sent by the system? well I still did not catch how to avoid that
<red1> yes.. monsoon season...
<Edwin_Ang> hopefully the weather will be nicer in March
<red1> ah yes collazosc .. did u do a search in the code?
<red1> let me try that for u now
<red1> calling up Eclipse
<red1> and also ADempiere app
<collazosc> I did it but I could not catch where the server start it
<red1> perhaps it is set in some window about Notices
<Edwin_Ang> i would like to ask something now
<Edwin_Ang> i've been working on fixed assets too lately
<Edwin_Ang> i want to contribute it
<red1> collazosc: in SystemConfig there is BCC email setting
<Edwin_Ang> should i complete everything or i can do it in phases
<red1> perhaps it can be extended from there, to have 'NO EMAILS' and modify at the same code used
<red1> Edwin_Ang: it is best in phases
<red1> what is needed is proper document to guide it
<red1> as review is easier that way
<collazosc> ok I will check and let you know
<red1> (I am qualified tester having passed CTFL basic exams) which taught me that code review actually begins with the specs document
<red1> so u need to write a specs document for others to read and review and check if it is in line with what is done
<red1> in a way u done exactly that via your writing in the forum… (in pieces)
<red1> and u got some important feedback which i read too
<red1> important is that i have stabilised FA somewhat with my last QA review (which i found some my own errors)
<red1> and rmoved the 3 Romanian fields elements
<red1> but i kept it as package for the sake of testing packages
<red1> it can easily go in anytime Carlos wants to.. but i prefer it not go in now.. as it is not urgent
<red1> OR it is easily applied as my Jenkins testing is for applying that easily
<Edwin_Ang> i am also preferring it as a package
<red1> also i am hoping to convert that as an OSGI plugin component
<Edwin_Ang> do we have a template for the specs document?
<red1> so if it is in the trunk we can all get confused again
<red1> Edwin_Ang: i think Adaxa has the nice format
<red1> but Pedro Rosa who meets us here in Bogota also has a good format
<red1> they all seems standard.. (with revision number and credits mostly)
<red1> and proper numbering of specs for easy reference
<red1> so i guess u might already can do one right away
<Edwin_Ang> and since we don't have an idempiere release yet
<Edwin_Ang> which version of adempiere should i used as based for this package
<Edwin_Ang> currently most of my work is adempiere360+ globalqss patch 0709
<red1> are you using source code level?
<red1> or binary?
<Edwin_Ang> source code
<red1> ok.. i think it is safe to use latest frozen as i announced in my SF/red1 Jenkins stack
<red1> i think i wrote the Revision number somewhere either there or in red1 forum on that
<red1> it is safe anyway as FA does not disturb core.. other than what i commented as with MInvoice ( i think)
<Javier_SETSOFTWA> bye evary one
<Edwin_Ang> the code is ok
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<Edwin_Ang> usually the migration script is the issue
<red1> perhaps the errors i discovered were due to version upgrade as my first test upgrade on FA was some time ago compared to just last month which i found some errors (come to think of it)
<red1> you should use my package as base
<red1> and then generate your changes as migration scripts
<Edwin_Ang> i actually use your FA work as base
<red1> then it can go on same base and thus we have common base
<Edwin_Ang> the code is quite stable right now
<red1> so in that way u try to avoid a 'fork' if possible
<red1> an then i can reuse same tests to see if you broke the base
<Edwin_Ang> but i have mixed up the migration script with some customization work
<red1> (i am not saying it is bad to break or fork)
<red1> we merely want to identify which base is good or better
<red1> i am welcoming if yours is better
<Edwin_Ang> actually i am not inventing a new one
<Edwin_Ang> just making Teo's code running
<red1> ah so it will be good if you can separate your customization from the core improvements you done
<red1> exactly.. Teo's code is not really complete
<red1> and even break Robert Klein's
<Edwin_Ang> his has a lot of Romanian local requirement i think
<red1> si si
<Edwin_Ang> i take them all out
<red1> yes.. he asked to remove his financing fields
<red1> as i reported.. hengsin agreed and so i took it out
<Edwin_Ang> you can say it is a simplified FA
<red1> its good that Teo still give me back his feedback on this
<Edwin_Ang> add i added a little missing parts here and there
<red1> that will be a good idea .. as long that it does not break what is working there
<red1> wow.. that will be a big jump if you manage to push that through for our package
<red1> cos no one i know really use it for production
<Edwin_Ang> give me a week.. i will prepare the specs documents and migration scripts
<Edwin_Ang> i not very good with documentation though.. but i'll try
<red1> collazosc: i found the java concerned
<Edwin_Ang> and i also need some help with the centralized ID
<red1> collazosc: take a look under org.compiere.util.Email.java
<red1> Edwin_Ang: do u have an account for that?
<red1> u can (a) ask from Berlin (b) ask from CarlosRuiz
<red1> your choice
<red1> and i can teach u to use that in about 10 mins
<red1> just be careful not to export your data without relogin
<Edwin_Ang> i feel better here.. so may i please request for it, Carlos?
<red1> Edwin_Ang: i recommend you make a request in ADempiere forum first
<red1> i do not wish to be accused of been a Che Guevara rebel
<red1> and Carlos can issue u one here also.. both ID usage do not conflict
<Edwin_Ang> i am not comfortable there
<Edwin_Ang> so let me ask here
<red1> but i think Carlos has to give us a patch in our SystemConfig code so that it refers to the new ID mgmt
<red1> OK.. wait for 7 mins
<red1> not 7 mths
<red1> collazosc: i trace that email java back to MClient java.. and so i think the solution maybe in there.. which tests for Email value.. thus.. do not give an email service and you should not get any emails
<red1> Edwin_Ang: i will bring this up with CarlosRuiz as i am staying with him (just that i am at his office now and he is still at home!)
<Edwin_Ang> oh? so you run his office now?
<red1> haha.. i drop some bombs here and there
<collazosc> yes I found Mclient.java but could not find from where it's called from.
<red1> actually i followed one of his staff back home that shows me the very interesting bus system
<red1> that solves the bad jams
<red1> collazosc: it is not a matter of tracing further.. the code says "if you have a value"
<red1> line 773: if (email == null)
<red1> during setup u can give a dummy email ID
<red1> unless you are really using it.. then let me look further
<collazosc> oh yes I could block behavior there but my concern is that probably this will block also other wanted emails (alerts in inventory)
<collazosc> so i was trying to find the place where those inactivity alert email are generated
<CarlosRuiz> sorry - I'm in a meeting at skype - but maybe I can check periodically here
<red1> it is under SendEmail.. and it is called by different events
<Edwin_Ang> inactivity alert?
<CarlosRuiz> collazosc, what is the message on log that you want to stop ?
<Edwin_Ang> i think it is related to request
<red1> si.. then u find that calling class
<red1> CarlosRuiz: Edwin_Ang is requesting for Centralised ID
<collazosc> "Inactivity Alert" that fill my logs
<red1> then it maybe under Notices
<red1> u can set that i think in that window
<CarlosRuiz> you just need to disable the GardenWorld request processor and restart the server
<CarlosRuiz> I still have not setup the iDempiere Centralized ID - but I'll do
<CarlosRuiz> Edwin_Ang, can you please send me an e-mail requesting that with your preferred user name and password
<Edwin_Ang> send to where?
<red1> Edwin_Ang: i think its best u ask in forum
<red1> our peaceful forum
<red1> so that others can reuse your request there
<red1> and Carlos can manage easier
<red1> as he can check that thread "Request for Centralized ID"
<red1> i think u can open a thread under "Building ADempiere"
<red1> is that ok CarlosRuiz ?
<collazosc> carlos how do I disable the request processor (sorry for the naive question)
<red1> collazosc: wait… i think there is a better way
<red1> its about setting Notice preference
<red1> i am looking for it
<red1> Go to User window
<red1> under User Contact (main tab) u find the Notification Type setting
<CarlosRuiz> red1 - as the request involves a password is better private
<CarlosRuiz> collazosc, enter as GardenAdmin and go to "Request Processor" window and inactivate it
<red1> yes carlos i dont mean to send the password via forum
<red1> i mean to make requests to u for that
<red1> they can ask there and you reply with your procedure and any guide on it
<Edwin_Ang> done with the forum request
<red1> then others will see it is visible and make same request or remember how to ask
<Edwin_Ang> please assist
hengsin: carlos, please setup one for me too.
<CarlosRuiz> sure will do
<red1> me too
<red1> ok .. i will ask in the 'proper' way in the forum
<red1> too bad we have no committee
<tbayen> rehi! Is there already a place for the IRC log of today? I would like to link some things from my wiki.
<CarlosRuiz> red1 is going to publish it
<CarlosRuiz> red1 - tickets to Armenia and Cali just arrived
<tbayen> when he is gone again, perhaps you can forgive me that I have sent him to you.
<red1> hang tbayen i am updating the Forking Debate !
<red1> this is a revisit of 5 yrs old history
<red1> so it is not going to beat your Jakob Bayen 125 yrs i know…
<red1> i meang HANG = HANG ON!