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ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby globalqss » Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:49 am

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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby globalqss » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:29 am

Chuck, short answer.

I received a request to change IP address of the domain, I offered some options, the most important option in my opinion is:
CONSULT COMMUNITY - I'm not the owner of the domain, I've always said I'm just a trustee and the domain is from the community, so I want community to be asked about the future of the now abused domain.

IMHO at this moment basically the domain is being abused by a commercial bunch of companies sucking the brand without any care about a real community which is the project by definition.

At this moment I think a good option can be to have a historic backup wiki that community can manage (at this moment the process of wiki management is also flawed there).

Regards,

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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby red1 » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:16 am

Below is the message that the neo-adempiereans put up to discredit us at their URL which they bought from a squatter (Christian Peer) that i broke off contact in early forking days when we allow our strong members to book. A squatter quickly took adempiere.net and that squatter replied my email stating that he just admired our project and he points .net to our .com. But that is a lie as eventually the neo-adempiereans contacted him and he exacted some amount of euros from them and they agreed to buy under ADeV at that time. So they transacted something that is fundamental to the community without even consulting me. I was also instrumental in forming the ADeV that time to get the project formally formed. They are just interested in business as usual and this eventually lead to what we see today - the decadence of the ADempiere project and the birth of the iDempiere project.

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For the rest of their propaganda you can go visit http://wiki.adempiere.net/ADempiere_ERP. They thus broke all the former links of many independent blogs that was linking to adempiere.com before this. All you have to do in such cases is to replace .com with .net.

We, in reciprocation have put up a and in the midst of restoring the wiki.
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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby red1 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:13 am

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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby red1 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:09 am

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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby orlandocurieles » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:54 pm

Estimado Yamel, como veo que te cuesta el Ingles, tambien te respondo en español, primero que todo sería de gran utilidad si pudieras demostrar que yo te gane una propuesta en un prospecto tuyo por ofrecerle tu producto movil, hablo sin pelos en la lengua ya que no me gustan las dobles caras, a INPROA SANTONI le vendimos un proyecto de iDempiere integrando la balanza electronica, el analisis del grano y muchas otras cosas que le desarrollamos, pero hasta que trabajaron con nosotros, sus vendedores seguian pasando sus ordenes manualmente y no a traves de tu "HERRAMIENTA MOVIL", ya que yo no les vendi eso, por cierto hablando de software libre no se porque dices esto:
A Red Huan lo conocí en Mayo del 2013 en Barquisimeto junto a Orlando Curieles. El motivo fue su interés en integrar el Spin-Suite (Para aquel momento era SFAndroid) a IDempiere, de nuestra parte creo que le dimos toda la ayuda posible, aun sabiendo que de una manera poco ética usaron eso para ofrecer sus servicios a un prospecto que teníamos en Portuguesa.

Si de verdad tuvieras un software libre, entonces desde ese mismo dia debiste demostrar donde estaban los repositorios publicos y la documentación, para que todo el mundo pudiera usarlo, cosa que no tenias, porque en efecto quedo demostrado que no compartias el código, desde que llegue a la comunidad todos nuestros repositorios han sido públicos, asi que considero que te falta moral para hablar de Software Libre, recuerdo que en dicha reunión me dijiste que ustedes usaban nuestra nomina pero que habian algunas cosas que no tenias claras, y hasta te subi una base de datos semilla que teniamos para que pudieras validarla o ya lo olvidaste ??? porque tengo como refrescarte la memoria.

Cuando llegue al proyecto para Venezuela no habia NADA, y nosotros desarrollamos validador Seniat, adecuamos la nomina a la LOT, adecuamos LCO para que se usara como LVE ( Pagando a Carlos Ruiz para que fuera a Venezuela y apoyara a mi equipo ) y desde el primer dia liberando codigo, hicimos los respectivos anuncios en las redes sociales y ustedes que ya tenian tiempo trabajando en el proyecto en una actitud NOT-OPENSOURCE no tenian nada liberado, o donde estan esos repositorios ?. y no conforme con eso, fuiste tu mismo quien edito la WIKI de ADempiere y quito nuestro nombre, logotipo y adecuaciones realizadas por mi equipo, pero como era insignificante para mi el proyecto muerto de ADempiere nunca te dije nada, hasta ahora que de paso vienes a hablar mal de mi, Asi que creo que antes de venir aca a hablar de alguien deberias revisar tu historial y como dicen por alla en el llano, el que tiene rabo de paja no se acerca a la candela.
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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby mhernandezve » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:06 am

En el año 2008 en un curso al que asistí, de un software que mi empresa comercializaba en ese momento y que no vale la pena mencionar, tuve una conversación con Orlando Curieles quien tambien asistía a dicho curso. Recuerdo claramente mi comentario a Orlando: "Necesitamos un software mas robusto y flexible por que éste se está quedando corto". En mi caso ya había tenido en mis manos a Compiere por los años 2002 o 2003 y luego observé en el año 2006 el surgimiento de la comunidad Adempiere, producto de la decisión del propietario de Compiere de cambiar el modo de licenciamiento del producto a un modelo cerrado, por lo que convencí a Orlando de que Adempiere podía ser la solución. A las 2 semanas de esa conversación, Orlando me contacta y me pregunta: "Quien es Carlos Ruiz? Está dictando un curso en Bogotá, quieres ir?". Emprendimos vuelo a Bogotá y estuvimos 2 semanas asientiendo al curso "Adempiere Funcional" y además, aprovechamos a conocer esa hermosa ciudad con nuestras respectivas esposas. A nuestro regreso estuvimos investigando sobre algún trabajo de localización para Venezuela, sin embargo no conseguimos ninguno, por lo menos ninguno publicado, por lo que Orlando en el año 2009 comenzó a gestionar la visita de Carlos Ruiz a Venezuela para capacitar a su personal técnico-funcional en Adempiere. La visita de Carlos duró 3 semanas, a la que también tuve la oportunidad de asistir, de las cuales fueron 2 semanas de capacitación técnico-funcional y en la localización colombiana y una semana de apoyo para iniciar el desarrollo para Venezuela de la localización de nómina. De allí en adelante, Orlando y su equipo desarrollaron y publicaron varios productos como la localización Venezuela basada en la LCO, el múdulo de nómina y recursos humanos adaptado a Venezuela (LOT), el validador de RIF con el SENIAT y algunos otros, código fuente incluido.

Desde aquellos momentos hasta la visita de Red1 a Venezuela en 2013 nunca supe quienes eran Yamel Senih ni su empresa ni su equipo de colaboradores, por lo menos no en el mundo del software libre, solo supe quienes eran cuando Red1 comentó en Barquisimeto que unas personas que tenían un desarrollo para fuerza de ventas móvil querían reunirse con él con la intención asesorarse para integrar su solución SFAndroid con iDempiere. Además también me enteré, por sus propias palabras, que tenian, desde hacía varios años, el desarrollo de una localización para Venezuela basada en la LCO pero el código fuente no estaba publicado.

Me interesé en el producto SFAndroid cuando vi la presentación que hicieron en Barquisimeto, me pareció un buen producto y muy flexible para configurar, sin embargo había un problema, al igual que la localización para Venezuela que ellos desarrollaron, el código fuente no estaba publicado. Estuve esperando por meses el ofrecimiento de publicar dicho código pero ésto no sucedió durante al menos 1 año después de aquiella reunión en 2013.

Entonces me pregunto, de que habla Yamel? Acaso pide respeto por reglas de software libre que él mismo irrespetó? Acaso pide ética cuando la suya propia está juego?
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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby red1 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:16 am

I have written to Yamel since then to response but two weeks have passed and there was none. My work in SFAndroid.pdf and SpinSuite forum is proof i did my best to help his company document the work while migrating to iDempiere (which is a lot of hard work, and is sponsored not by them but SYSNOVA and a Russian user company). It is simply ridiculous to not check the facts, nor appreciate other contributions and remove their work due to some dispute that is one-sided, arbitrary - becoming police, judge, jury and executioner. Anyway we have made steps to recover the old wiki and a great Brazilian company has stepped forward and done so and below is the screenshot. The wiki will be frozen as it remains just an archive of reference for many community users' old links which will be restored and not remain broken. We will point back into http://www.adempiere.com once we ensure its secured that no one from the neo-adempiereans are able to deface the pages or remove rights again.
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Re: ADempiere Wiki is No Longer Available

Postby red1 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:54 am

We have fully regained the and all links should work now. I have also reverted wrongful credit removal for Venezuela as requested by Orlando Curieless, and wrongful removal of Carlos Ruiz's credit in Colombia. There were also personal smearing that does not respect contributions that made up an open source project great. So I have frozen the wiki for read-only as the main complaint was its vast resources to remain unbroken. I have removed commercial advertising from front page and will continue to do down the line to restore it as a community treasure that helps all users be they ADempiere or iDempiere, with no information hiding, fully based on merit and giving assurance that this project is a world beater and winner.

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