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iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

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iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby globalqss » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:11 am

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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby red1 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:07 am

This email was revealed to me by Carlos and i kindly requested him that he answer it openly in line with our long standing tradition of 'Information is Free' but 'People are Not' so the name and country are withheld.

It is interesting that this letter is written to him instead of me shows how important the source-code maintainer, reviewer and contributor is above everyone else. This serves as something for us all to reflect on. When the water-hole is finally protected, or left to or placed under the right person's authority, people will realise who is most important in an Open Source Software project.

Even though that person is labelled with many names and his words considered noise and some people close their ears when he speaks. But listening to him here is even more interesting. Carlos has never shown interest in taking the limelight or credit for what he does not do or have time to do. He is willing to acknowledge that community work of uniting everyone is important and it is other person's domain. He is willing to work hand in hand but he has highest regard for rules and principles.

Perhaps the person who wrote the letter is more wiser than all of us. He knows that I cannot really unite the community or that is no longer important. Nevertheless it is the only duty left for me to do.

I have mellowed over the years in that i no longer fight well. I rather lose well. We should agree to disagree and maintain high respect. I follow Carlos confidence that iDempiere will live long. Many of us want to hear that. I know with such good words, most will now choose iDempiere above ADempiere.

If one more phrase i can add to 'Contributors are Priceless - You have to Be' is 'Community is Supreme - You shall soon See'.

(For non-English readers, the word 'Supreme' here does not mean power but the been the right arbiter or judge of what is right, and their will reveal itself over time and it is organic as well as harmonious. I am also referring to the much wider community beyond our AD.eV control over a few persons. The community i traveled is very wide, diverse, powerful, sincere, determined and indeed supreme. I strongly recommend meeting the people in person so that we can discount if that person is sincere or not. I also prefer to be more quieter nowadays as i realised people may feel intimidated or patronised which they do not like to be. So you will really not find me over at the SourceForge forums. Not even to stand for August elections. Without Carlos, well not to make a phrase out of it but i can say "Without the top guy, we got nothing". ).
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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby PeanutBlake » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Hi Red1,

Good news from Japan :-)
by the way, I often face the questions from Chinese community members, would you tell me some news?
Question 1: When will the iDempiere be released?
Question 2: How about the manufacturing function for iDempiere? as we see the manufacturing is simple in http://demo.idempiere.com

thanks!

Best Regards

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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby red1 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:27 am

Carlos Ruiz answered this question in his weekly chat sessions so you can read from there. What i know is that version 1.0 is set for Early 2013. However i am upgrading the installer again and will do an automatic update / backup / restore option configuration into it soon. That means with this installer you can always update your iDempiere without much manual steps.

I think it is Adaxa (Australia) contribution of 'Light Manufacturing' that is considered by Carlos for maintenance into the application. Libero Mfg is not maintained but it can be just another 3rd party plugin component as part of the beauty of the OSGi framework.

It be good you come into the #iDempiere chat session to ask further.
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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby red1 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:32 am

Well, we told you so: http://sourceforge.net/projects/adempie ... ic/5861317

A simple short question, "Do we still have a LEGITIMATE CC"? to which, of all answers, Colin Rooney replied, "There is a lot of questions there!" and started another amazing example of self immolation.

<snip></snip> Not good to rant now. iDempiere is keeeping us busy and we need not repeat what we concluded long ago.

Peace to the community. iDempiere lives on.
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Re: iDempiere and ADempiere (Personal opinion from Carlos)

Postby globalqss » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:47 pm

I liked this recent reading, totally applicable to the flame call from Colin (I mean, the recycled accusation about my measures to protect the project from ABC):

"Don't explain. Your friends do not need it, and your enemies will not believe you" ... and stupids will not understand.

:-D
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